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mjoel, thanks for suggesting "Waking Life". I will look for it. Speaking of videos, many years ago (twenty, perhaps twenty-five) we saw a multipart PBS television program called something like "The Long Search". I think it was a BBC product. Anyway, it was an exploration of all t...

A semi-related thought ... Here's a wrinkle I find in the theory of evolution. If we are evolved from apes, why did we lose the tail? Why would that loss have been considered desirable? Think about it. A monkey's tail is an extremely useful device, and I can think of many times -- working on carpent...

Art, It is very nice to hear from you again. We've missed your input. I hope that you have both been well, and particularly that none of the recent hurricanes have impacted your area. In one of the books by or about John Paul II (I can't remember precisely where I read it), the question arose about ...

Speaking of science and mysticism (please see my post " What the bleep ... " at Open Forum's General Discussion), the Metanexus Institute has recently (at least, it is new to me) posted a Call for Thought and Action urging a "a scientifically informed and spiritually meaningful vision...

Yesterday, we watched and enjoyed the movie What The Bleep Do We Know . This is an interesting and challenging documentary about quantum physics and mysticism presented in the form of narratives delivered by a variety of scientists, professors, and authors, overlaying a story about a professional ph...

Perhaps the compressing of time can be evidence of "success" ... It figures that the more open and receptive we become (allow ourselves to be) to the reality of our nature -- and particularly to where and how our "personality" evolves, our inclinations, habits, preconceptions, o...

In this interesting discussion, Bhakti posted the following very cool line from Gregory Bateson's book Steps to an Ecology of Mind : "the individual is continually surprised and necessarily angered when his hardheaded policies return to plague the inventor". My own experience as a seeker c...

A friend of The Zoo Fence sent us this amusing ... and well considered ... piece. The setting is a telephone conversation between a computer user and a computer technical support person. Technical Support: How can I help you today? Computer Customer: Well, after much consideration, I've decided to i...

I don't know which of those two -- if either -- said that, but it sounds to me more like Da Free John. And for all his problems ... and they are legion, if he said it, he's right. It reminds me of something said by the Spanish philosopher Miguel de Unamuno, which I put on TZF's Here's A Thought last...

Bhakti, right on! In Nisargadatta's words, "Teachers there are many". For the truly aspiring seeker, there is no shortage of inspiration. The Teacher is everywhere. The problem, if there be one, is we ourselves. Are we open and receptive to the Teacher everywhere present? On this subject, ...

WindAbove, excellent post! Thank you for keeping us focused. Thanks too for the reference to Genesis 2:6, which you also referred to in an earlier post about Mary Baker Eddy. Until you mentioned it, I had never considered the “rising mist”as you interpret it. I love it. -- I have just posted to TZF ...

Following on the thoughts of WindAbove and Clarence, can we say that the distinction between I=God and i=Not God is an illusion (a creative illusion?) manufactured by "me" to prove and justify "my" perception of "my" existence separate and unique from all else? After al...

Anna has been reading Life After Life , a book about near-death experiences. Naturally, that got us to talking about death generally. Then, yesterday morning, I happened to drive by a cemetery, and as I did so, a car driven by an older man came out of the cemetery and pulled into the road, ahead of ...

After posting last week's Here's A Thought and the previous item in this thread, I received the following from WindAbove which seemed to me worth sharing with everyone here. Yes, considering the social context, Mary Baker Eddy was all the more remarkable, but, I hasten to add, her human accomplishme...

Re the quiet: It is not unusual at this time of year for Open Forum to become relatively quiet. We observed the same phenomenon in its last incarnation at ... wherever we had it before (at the moment, I can’t recall the name of the server that originally hosted Open Forum). For those visitors living...